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Darryn de la Soul- Passing it on to the next generation

downloadCreator of Soulsound Agency and the Soulsound.co.uk website and resource centre, Darry de la Soul, has been an engineer and educator. She is passionate about taking the knowledge she and other engineers have gained through experience and passing it on and helping qualified people find work.

Darryn found herself getting into the world of audio for the same reason many have, because of her love of music. While managing a London nightclub for much of her late 20s, she was more interested in the DJ equipment than tallying the nightly bar take. This prompted her to attend a specialist audio engineering college where she studied studio sound (live sound was not available as an option). Darryn recalls the course was “a revelation in fabulousness and wonder, and I had the time of my life whilst studying.”

Darryn considers herself a bit of an all-rounder, not specializing in FOH or Monitors, Studio or Live. Her very first engineering job was as a full-time assistant in the London venue- 93 Feet East. It was unusual in two ways; one- to start out in an assistant position and Two- that the venue had two full-time engineers. Her job was as assistant to engineer Paul Epworth of Adele fame, whom Darryn has called ‘a total genius.’ She credits Paul as helping her manage the crossover from studio to live sound with only a few ‘deeply embarrassing’ mishaps. She landed the job after assisting Paul on a Royksopp gig during which she managed to fix their sampler.

The venue had a capacity of around 200 and had a Funktion One system installed. Darryn quickly became a devoted fan of the purple boxes.

“After I went freelance, I spent a lot of time working in nightclubs and with one particular promoter who did a lot of obscure electronics, and fabulous electronics/classical crossover events. My secret name for these was “Spawn of the Aphex Twin,” and I had enormous amounts of fun making things go with low budgets, in odd spaces, and with spectacularly odd humans.”

Darryn faced many of the same obstacles that we all do starting out like; “earning enough money to pay the rent (even the assistant’s job paid so badly I was paying my utility bills on credit cards), spiraling debt, and once I’d started freelancing, having no-one but my own mistakes to learn from.”

“I think this is the most difficult thing for people starting in this career.  Most entry-level work is solo, so your knowledge base easily stagnates without the influence of more experienced people.  Most other jobs in the world are team-based in one way or another, so there is always someone more advanced to learn from. When you fight your battles completely alone, it’s easy to fall into bad habits that stem from ignorance rather than purpose.”

She has never thought that being a woman in a man’s world has held her back. Darryn has also felt that bands liked having her around because “women tend to be more amenable to being that extra bit helpful beyond the call of duty – when it comes for looking out for people (and their feelings), being a bit motherly and so on.  I also think having a woman on the bus also reduces the amount of porn being watched in the lounge, which probably suits some men very well too:-). “ Darryn doesn’t believe that men and women differ when it comes to technical skills, “when it comes to mixing, I don’t think there’s a lot of difference. Good or bad hearing is not gender-specific.”

Making the transition from Live Sound to TeachingDarryn at PLASA

“In 2009 my old college asked me if I would help set up a Live Sound course and teach maybe three days a week.  A couple of months into the set-up process and it was clear that it would be a full-time position, as someone needed to do it! So I ended up being “mommy” of the course with people like Marcel van Limbeek and Justin Grealy regularly lecturing, and Jon Burton putting in the occasional guest appearance. All three are now mainstays in Soulsound.”

“At first I tried to keep a few gigs going on the weekends, but running a college course is pretty full-on, and I couldn’t keep up the pace of living in the daytime during the week and at night on weekends.  So sadly, I had to wind down the gigs. In the end, though, it was the right decision for me as I feel like I have now found my niche.”

After four years of teaching at Alchemea, Darryn started Soulsound Agency. The idea came as the result of the college course being so successful at creating highly employable, entry-level engineers. Darryn had been using her extensive connections in the industry to find work experience for students and paid work for graduates. During a conversation with one of the graduates she had placed, she learned that the graduate was making more money (through all of the work Darryn had found for him) than she was earning. She realized that all of her time and effort in procuring work for the students was worth something and Soulsound Agency was born.  Darryn continued helping graduates find work and slowly built up enough business to be able to quit her job. “I was never very good at working for other people,” she says.

That was in 2012, and the business has grown so much that in 2014 Soulsound kept about 70 engineers in all or some of their income, a fact that Darryn is very proud of.

Along with finding work for qualified engineers, Soulsound.co.uk has an extensive Resource Centre, which is a lifelong learning resource for sound engineers that Darryn along with Justin, Marcel, and Jon developed.  Soulsound’s goal is to plug the real-life gaps in formal education and support engineers throughout their careers.  Soulsound does this with stand-alone masterclasses, tutorials, interviews, insights, career development and ‘whatever else takes our fancy,’ says Darryn.   The great thing about not being restricted to a course curriculum is that we can delve into subjects not often dealt with in classrooms (like bathroom etiquette on a tour bus).  We can also take advantage of opportunities, like following Jon Burton around with a camera (or four) while he was working in Brixton Academy (London’s most famous venue) with Bombay Bicycle Club.”

“We are very flexible and so are very good at grabbing opportunities when they are in front of us.  We also make an effort to interact personally with our members, and present live seminars whenever we can, particularly at PLASA and other trade shows.”

Darryn is passionate about Soulsound. “I really love what we are doing – which is largely emptying the brains of brilliant engineers onto video, encouraging the pursuit of excellence, and showing people how good they can be!”

What are some of the most important lessons you’ve learned through your career?

One thing I learned early on is that you should do the gigs you don’t feel like doing. The days you really, really don’t feel like getting out of bed – those are the days it’s essential that you do.  Those are the gigs you will either learn something amazing, meet someone who will have an influence on your career or find your next band to tour with.

Every gig you ever do will have an influence on your skills and career.  No gig too small, I say!  Just get out there and do everything that comes your way – don’t be a gig snob… You might not like the genre or the venue or whatever but do it anyway.

What advice would you offer to someone interested in a career in Live Sound?

Do it!  It’s one of the best ways to earn a living imaginable. But be prepared for long hours, dirty hands and probably a bit of a struggle when you start out. It’s not an easy choice, but it is a very rewarding one.

And keep learning.  If you’re fresh out of college, you’re just at the beginning of your journey. You can never know too much about this game. Learn online, from books, from manufacturer-led training, from each other.  Go to as many gigs as you can and watch the engineer – learn from their mistakes, as well as your own.

Meet as many other engineers as you possibly can – being friends with people is a very good way of getting more work, and learning from their experiences.

It’s also worth keeping your eyes open for the many paths that cross with live sound, which may be a better fit for you – consider tour managing, production managing, booking, artist liaison, etc.  There are many career opportunities in the live sector that are not directly mixing.

If you’d like more advice on finding (and keeping) work, download Darryn’s free ebook “Getting a Foot In the Door” and check out Soulsound.co.uk

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Upcoming Audio Seminars, Classes, and Workshops

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September Events


Meyer Sound Fundamentals of System Design, Implementation, and Optimization 
Two Days – Portland, OR – Sept 1- 2

This seminar encompasses a variety of topics in sound system applications. Practical information on system design and application is presented in a real-world context to provide useful background. Theory and practice of line arrays are discussed, along with the tools for system optimization, including equalization, delay, loudspeaker management systems, measurement with the SIM 3 audio analyzer, and use of Meyer Sound’s acoustical prediction program, MAPP XT.

Upcoming Seminars


Meyer SoundThe Mixing Workshop 
Two Days – Sept 3 – 4 – Portland, OR

The Mixing Workshop focuses on the role of the mix engineer in live audio production. Buford Jones gives attendees the benefit of his vast experience working with an incredible array of artists from numerous genres in a seminar that goes beyond the technical to artistic and even political concerns. Mixing tools and techniques, system tuning, mixing in concert halls, record producer involvement, surround mixing, mixing in isolation are all discussed, but Jones also addresses issues of communication and trust between the artist and the mix engineer, and the politics involved in any production, from large-scale tours, to corporate events and house of worship productions.

Day one will include a lecture and presentation that emphasizes the benefits of mixing on linear sound systems. Demonstrating this with playback of live recordings and discussions of the various sound systems used.

Day two will expand on live mixing, demonstrations of implementing common signal processing, as well as giving attendees an opportunity to mix and receive advice on how to improve their skills from a master of the trade.


 PRO 2015 Performance and Venue Technology Show – Birmingham UK – Sept. 12 – 14th

A dynamic trade show with a range of new features for 2015, PRO will give technology professionals and enthusiasts the chance to network with their peers; see the latest new equipment in action; and further their knowledge through an expansive educational programme.


Meyer SoundComprehensive System Design and Implementation 
Five Days – Madrid Spain – Sept. 14 – 18th

The five-day intensive seminar integrates course materials from several other training sessions into a single seminar that gives participants a solid working familiarity with all aspects of Meyer Sound’s technology. The course builds a solid understanding of measurement, covering concepts such as FFT analysis, filters and phase relationships at an advanced level and with practical reference to use of the SIM 3 audio analyzer system. Other main topics covered include system alignment, basic array theory, applications for Meyer Sound MAPP XT, use of Meyer Sound loudspeaker management for optimizing performance, and an in-depth look at line array theory with specific and detailed reference to a broad spectrum of Meyer Sound product applications.


 Seattle SoundGirls – Women’s Live Music Production Workshop – September 19th

Saturday, September 19, 2015 – 10am – 4pm – $60.00

Spend the day learning everything you need to know to set up your own live stage production. PAs, microphones, cables, effects, and more! Class is for women 18 years and up. Beginners are welcome.


Soundgirls.OrgSouthern California Meet Up – Sept. 20 – 1:00 to 3:00 PM

La Monarca Bakery 6091 Sunset Blvd Los Angeles, CA 90028

We are holding a casual meet up for coffee and lunch on Sept. 20 at 1 PM. La Monarca Bakery. This is just a get together to meet and network with other SoundGirls.Org members. La Monarca Bakery has reserved their community table for us and offer a nice selection of coffee, bakery items, salads, and more. You can view their menu here: http://lamonarcabakery.com/menu.html


Women’s Audio Mission Introduction to Sound Design for Film
Date/Time: September 22, 2015 – 7:00pm
Where: Berkeley Sound Artists,2600 Tenth Street, Suite 312, Berkeley, CA 94710


L’Acoustics Training Dates – September

UK – Chessington:
September 9, 2015 – System Fundamentals
September 10, 2015 – K2 System

UK – Liverpool:
September 22, 2015 – System Fundamentals
September 23, 2015 – KARA System
September 24, 2015 – K2 System

Netherlands:
September 23, 2015 – System Fundamentals

US – Oxnard, CA:
September 29, 2015 – System Fundamentals
September 30, 2015 – KARA System


Sound Pro 2015 –  London – Sept 26

Informal exhibition area with manufacturers, distributors, dealers and service providers. Practical presentation sessions by the Institute of Professional Sound. Meet, socialise and network. Get your hands on the sound gear from the IBC. For all freelancers, location recordists, production sound operators, and audio aficionados in broadcast, film and post. Free to register, free to visitors.


Meyer Sound System Design Principles 
One Day – Sept. 30 – Montabaur, Germany

This seminar provides an overview of the Meyer Sound product line as well as essential principles involved in the design and measurement of complex sound reinforcement systems. Participants receive a basic grounding in the key parameters of audio measurement (phase response, impulse response) and how they relate to filters and phase alignment. A comprehensive summary of array configuration principles is integrated with a discussion of acoustical prediction theory using Meyer Sound MAPP Online. The seminar also introduces line array theory, outlining how different line array solutions apply in specific applications. System optimization approaches are covered in conjunction with an overview of Source Independent Measurement as implemented in the SIM 3 audio analyzer.

This seminar is recommended for audio students, system technicians, as well as contractors, dealers and rental companies new to Meyer Sound.

Participants should bring their own Internet-ready laptop computer.


 October 2015


PLASA Show – Oct. 4 – 6, 2015 – ExCel – London

The annual exhibition that connects the international live entertainment technology industry and ranks as one of the premier shows of its kind. It presents ground breaking technology and exciting new launches by the world’s greatest designers and engineers to an international audience of pro audio, lighting, broadcast, AV and stage technology experts.


Meyer SoundSIM 3 Training and System Design
Four Days- Oct. 6 – 9 Finland – Oct. 16 -19 Spain

This in-depth seminar provides participants with a thorough theoretical and operational understanding of source independent measurement and a solid grounding in application of SIM analysis in the design of complex audio systems. The seminar gives a brief review of SIM theory and system development, followed by a comprehensive discussion of field use procedures for the SIM 3 audio analyzer. The seminar then extends the foundation of SIM measurement into sound system design. Participants will look at the complex interactions of loudspeakers in a variety of configurations and acoustical environments from the standpoints of phase, frequency and impulse responses.

Participants should bring their own Internet-ready laptop computer, but need not bring their SIM 3 units.

Upcoming Seminars


Seattle SoundGirls – Women’s Home Recording Workshop – October 24th

Saturday, October 24, 2015 -10am – 4pm

Learn the basics of home recording in Garageband and Logic Pro. Class is for women 18 years and up. Beginners are welcome.


Work Experience Opportunity – Volunteer to work sound Northern California Women’s Music Festival

Modesto, CA – Oct. 23 – 24, 2015

This is a great opportunity for our members that need hands-on mixing experience and at the same time will help support The Northern California Women’s Music Festival.


L’Acoustics Training Dates – October

France – Marcoussis:
October 7, 2015 – KARA System
October 8, 2015 – Variable Curvature Line Source
October 20, 2015 – KARA System (in French)
October 21, 2015 – Variable Curvature Line Source (in French)

Germany – Bucholz:
October 20, 2015 – System Fundamentals
October 21, 2015 – KARA System
October 22, 2015 – K2 System


AES – October 29 – November 1st – New York


L’Acoustics Training Dates – November

Germany – Bergneustadt:
November 17, 2015 – System Fundamentals
November 18, 2015 – KARA System


December Events


 Entertainment Electricity, Power Distribution, & Controls Training

Entertainment Electrics 3-Day Class
Burbank, CA
December 16, 17, & 18, 2015
9AM—5PM

Three day course covers everything from basic electricity to advanced power distro, safety, codes and regulations, and control systems. This course counts up to 21 renewal credits for ETCP Certified Electricians.

The first day is the foundation builder and refresher on electricity, including DC, AC, Ohm’s law, power, impedance, phase angles, three-phase power, balancing loads, dimming, and more.

The second day covers electrical safety and power distribution including CEC, NFPA 70-E, portable generators, transformers, feeder cable, disconnects, overcurrent protection, branch circuits, connectors, grounding, GFCIs, load calculations, harmonics, lock-out/tag-out, and more.

The third day covers networking systems starting with binary numbers and working through data distribution systems and networking including Ethernet, RDM, ACN, Streaming ACN, wireless, fiber, and more.


Richard Cadena is the author of “Electricity for the Entertainment Electrician and Technician” (Focal Press 2009), “Focus on Lighting Technology” (2002, Entertainment Technology Press), “Lighting Design for Modern Houses of Worship” (Timeless Communications Press, 2008, and “Automated Lighting: The Art and Science of Moving Light in the Theatre, Live Performance, Broadcast and Entertainment” (2006, Focal Press). He is also a freelance designer and the editor of PLSN magazine. His background in electrical engineering and his entertaining communication skills combine to make his seminars a unique and enjoyable learning experience.

January 2016 Events


SoundGirls.Org hosts Tour Managing and FOH Workshop – Los Angeles, Modesto, San Fransisco – New York City –  Dates TBA

West Coast Workshops will feature Independent FOH/Tour Managers Chez Stock and Rachel Ryan

East Coast Workshop will feature Independent FOH/Tour Manager Claudia Englehart

Details TBA – Check Back


Ongoing Seminars and Courses

Smaart Training Classes

Digico Training U.K.

L-ACOUSTICS Training

The L-ACOUSTICS training program is designed to enable technicians, system engineers and sound designers to get the best performance from L-ACOUSTICS systems.The L-ACOUSTICS training seminars are conducted by expert professionals selected for their expert skills and their experience in the audio industry.

Meyer Sound Seminars – Check their schedule of upcoming seminars in the U.S., Europe, and Latin America. Covering a wide range of topics from beginning to advance.Upcoming Dates for Feb – April 2015


d&b Educational Training Calendar

This calendar offers a concise overview of the d&b seminars and workshops around the world.


Britannia Row’s Live Sound Technology Course
This course provides a short-cut entry path into the live sound industry. Unlike other audio, sound or music technology courses, it focuses on all of the skills needed for professional live work. You will learn directly from sound engineers and audio technicians who are working at the highest levels in the industry.

Live Sound Engineering Course The Blackbird Academy

UPCOMING START DATES:
  September 28, 2015
The Blackbird Academy’s Live Sound Engineering Program is based on the same model as our studio engineering program: The program has been developed in collaboration with Clair Global. Clair Global professionals will also be part of the guest teaching staff, guiding students through the skills it takes to work in this challenging and growing industry.

Studio Engineering at Blackbird Academy

UPCOMING START DATES:

September 28, 2015

The Blackbird Academy’s classes are taught over 24 weeks, hands-on, in studios you’ve heard on countless records.


The Shure Academy Seminars
These online seminars provide basic information on the respective subject with the help of descriptive content such as videos and flash demos. For e-learning, flexibility is key. You can decide when you’ll work on the seminars. All online modules can be completed independently at a time to suit you.

SoundChannel’s Online Training in Music Production and the Recording Arts!
Are you an aspiring music producer, recording engineer, live sound engineer or sound designer? Get a jump-start on your career with essential training at SoundChannel!
Self-paced, unlimited access online 24/7.

Golden Ears Challenge
Philips unique Golden Ears training program was designed to develop the listening skills of our audio engineers. Their listening expertise ensures we create products of superior sound quality that highlight every musical detail.

DiGiCo Training Sessions
We regularly conduct Training Sessions / Seminars / Events. Attending these is free of charge and carried out in various locations around the world.
Watch Tutorial / Training Videos – DiGiCo TV

MIDAS Certified Training
Midas has established Learning Centres around the globe. You can choose three locations that best suits your attendance. Each location provides the same high quality training experience. You can also check out their online tutorials.


Entertainment Electricity, Power Distribution, and Control Systems

The online version of the popular Entertainment Electricity, Power Distribution, and Control Systems class on your computer when it’s convenient for you. This course is presented in three segments, the first of which has eight short video presentations followed by a short test. The videos are no more than 15 minutes each and they are graphically illustrated using drawings and animations. The tests vary from 10 to 25 questions and the results are completely private. No one but you has to know your score. There are also practice worksheets that allow you to sharpen your skills and refine your understanding.

The APT Electrics Online course allows you to:
– work at your own pace
– study in the privacy of your home or office
– watch the video until you understand; play back, rewind, play over, and pause whenever you like
– avoid missing work and a paycheck in order to attend a class
– avoid travel expenses

The first segment covers basic electricity, Ohm’s law, circuits, AC electricity, reactance, power factor, 3-phase power, and more. The second and third segments are under development and will be available soon.

To view the introductory video, visit www.vimeo.com/APTXL/intro. For more information, Email: info@APTxl.com


Soundcraft Video Channel

Upcoming SSL Live Training Workshops

Avid Live Sound Solutions

Yamaha Training and Support
Online Training

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Testimonials

“Since joining the Soundgirls community, I have only received encouragement, education, and a stronger knowledge of self-worth. SoundGirls is an organization where you are free to grow, learn, and push yourself to achieve your goals in audio and touring amongst like-minded peers. It has always encouraged diversity and pushed the needle towards achieving equality in the entertainment industry. SoundGirls personally has helped me find my tribe, and I have met some of the most determined, smart, and extraordinary women here who I’ve been fortunate to work alongside and also call my friends. I’m grateful a community like SoundGirls exists.”

Mary Broadbent 

I love that SoundGirls has made it accessible to be an emerging “sound girl” in my discipline for post-production sound. I started with being assigned a mentor in summer 2020, which inspired me to get involved with the Living History Project which has helped me to meet veteran post-sound designers I otherwise wouldn’t have access to. In the past year, I’ve landed my first network tv gig as an apprentice sound editor and joined Motion Picture Editors Guild. The SoundGirls network has been a major support group for my goals. 

Twi McCallum

I appreciate the organization you have created and it’s an amazing tool for all of us SoundGirls.

Sylvia Monge

Hey Karrie, I had a blast. After the tour of the Viper Room, I was so inspired and happy to see women of all walks of life running sound. I felt truly blessed to have that experience. You have created something so awesome for women!

Karla Barrera

Thank you for letting me have the most amazing experience with the Indigo Girls’ and the Jax Symphony tech crews. I will never go through an experience like it again. One person explained all about sound waves in a way that really made sense to me and about the wires onstage. Another person let me watch him set up a sound board and the computers used for it. A man told me all about the lights in a really technical way (I’m afraid I was not intelligent enough to understand it). Sully (the Indigo Girls guitar tech) told me about setting up guitars, plugs, and butterfly clips. All in all, this was an educational (but fun!) trip. Thanks so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maggie Moore

Dear Michelle. We absolutely loved the Styx concert and meeting you on August 8 in Sioux Falls. Thank you so much for referring us to SoundGirls. As a parent of a young girl pursuing similar dreams, I found your story and the website to be SO supportive and encouraging. My daughter joined the organization just hours after hearing about it and she can’t stop thanking me for talking to you and the referral to the site. Your story about growing up was like reading Mollie’s story. I have a whole new perspective of the field and am greatly encouraged to hear about how happy and successful you are and we LOVED your advice to young women who have similar goals!!!!! Thank you, THANK you, THANK YOU for taking time to say hello to us in SD and inspiring girls like my daughter!!!!!!!!

Michelle from SD.

Jumping Into the Hot Seat

Preparation is the Key

There seems to be an unwritten rule in audio – when you’re new to a bigger club, you start by doing monitors.

I’d been asking a friend about opportunities for work in Toronto for quite some time. So when she hooked me up with a job interview to be a monitor tech at The Mod Club, I knew I had to take it. (more…)

In Praise of Being Invisible

 

Earlier this year something happened to me that hasn’t happened to me very often: my sound design received positive praise in two press reviews. If you’re not sure why this is unusual, have a look at any recent big theatre awards for Best Sound.  Then look up the reviews for the shows and note how many received positive reviews for sound. Spoiler: there won’t be many. (more…)

The Only Dude on Tour

1978764_10100302702953475_1618346859_nAndrew Miller lives in Los Angeles, CA, and produces music. He has a project called UUV. He also works in film and televison, as well with as other artists.. Andrew played guitar on the Dum Dum Girl’s first record and now tours as a guitar player with the band.

Andrew recently toured with the Dum Dum Girls and found himself as the only dude on tour. We thought it would be fun to ask him some of the questions women in the industry are often asked. They of course have nothing to do with his actual job or abilities. This piece should not be taken seriously, except to point out how ridiculous these questions are.


What’s it like to be the only dude on a tour bus?

Great. In practical terms, wouldn’t anyone rather share close quarters with women than men? Creepers aside.

Do they expect you to be bus dad?

Ha, I have no idea what that means, so probably not. It’s funny though, I can imagine a bus mom, the nurturer. Actually, Claire was obviously the bus dad.

Do you get all grossed out by the girl talk?

I do girl talk, it’s one of my favorite types of talking. What’s not to love?

Are there lots of guy groupies on the bus after the show?

No. The male groupies need to step up their game though.

Do people ask which one of the band members you are sleeping with?

I don’t think so.

Don’t you want to have kids?

That’s the idea.

How does your wife or girlfriend feel about you working with all these women?

I had a girlfriend when I first joined the band and now I don’t, so I might be the wrong person to ask. Touring is hard on relationships, obviously. But there was never an issue in terms of touring with women.

Do you still get to watch porn on a bus full of women?

Porn is welcomed and well regarded in Dum Dum Girl land. But I don’t feel like a tour van is an ideal place for porn, no?1231387_10202618034362891_475064863_n

Claire Murphy – Back Line Tech

Claire got her start the same way as hundreds of backline techs do, by playing guitar and realizing the band thing just was not going to work out. Claire found it difficult to find people with the same passion and drive that she had and decided to focus on touring as part of the crew. She started out by helping friends bands and making a nuisance of herself when she started to take it seriously and started working at some rehearsal studios. She started to meet people in the industry and learn more about backline equipment.

She has been working professionally and full time for five years and has learned how to tour manage. While she enjoys the challenges of tour management, she says,  “there’s nothing like being a backline tech in the wings with the band two feet from you and the pressure of the gig”. In her short time working she has been fortunate to work with some great bands, including The Raveonettes, Therapy, and The Answer.

Dum Dum Girls Tour

Dum Dum Girls Tour

She recently spent a few months in the states with the Dum Dum Girls; it ended up being an all-women crew and band, with the exception of guitar player Andrew Miller. Claire says they had the best time touring together. Dana Wachs was the FOH Engineer.

Was this a conscious decision on the part of the Dum Dum Girls to hire all women?

As far as “I’m aware, it just happened. They’ve had a male crew in the past, so it wasn’t a conscious decision, just whoever was right at that time. As you know, a lot to do with a successful tour comes down to touring with the right group of people, regardless of sex. I think it just happened that way. Personally, I’m always keen to work with bands that have women members, as they are still the minority, and it usually makes for a fun dynamic on the road. I tend to gravitate towards those bands and maybe end up socializing with them more, which as you know can lead to more work.

Dum Dum Girls Tour

Dum Dum Girls Tour

Did you find it different from touring with an all-guy crew? If so in what ways?

I think I felt like we were a gang, and it felt like going on tour with a group of friends, but that could simply be down to the people and personalities versus everyone being female. I think it was somewhat easier looking after everyone. As tour managers, we were all the same age, and all have our lives centered around music, so it was one big family. It was easily one of the best tours I’ve done. I’d love to say that was down to it being 99% female.

I bet some heads turned seeing an all-women crew and band.  Is there a particular moment that stands out?

Oh definitely.. and people commented. Which I loved! because I’m totally pro-women doing anything a man can do in a male-dominated industry. I suppose they just don’t expect everyone, band, and crew, to be female. I do remember Andrew saying he felt a little odd that he wasn’t doing any lifting/unloading the van, etc., and women were doing it instead.

tour, dum dum girls

Why did you choose to become a backline tech over another position?

I’m not sure I “chose” it as such, it was a natural thing to do. I’ve always been a huge fan of live shows and spent a lot of my youth going to concerts. I would see these guys (I don’t think I ever saw one girl!) doing the changeover, and I knew I wanted to do that. Helping to bring the show to the stage has a huge satisfaction because I know how important it is to see a band live, and how exciting it is. I have now moved into tour management as well, just because it brings its different challenges, but I will always have a soft spot for being a backline tech.

Do you have a specialty?
I’m all about the guitars. I’m taking drum lessons right now, but I stay away from drums if possible. Don’t ask me why, I think it’s the way my brain is wired.

There are very few women doing backline, have you found much resistance from artists to hire you because you were a woman?  How have you handled it?

I’ve found it to be an advantage. At least I have never come across open discrimination due to my gender. A lot of bands like the fact they have a woman on tour with them, it calms the testosterone. Sometimes you get comments about how rare it is, or “do I need a hand with lifting that darling!?”, But that’s often from my crew.  I’ve never felt intimidated or out of place, but that might just be because I’m a tomboy as well so I can hold my own with the guys.

Why do you think there is a lack of female backline techs?
I guess most backline techs play the guitar or have an interest in guitars/backlines. There are fewer girls playing guitar than guys so I guess it stands that fewer girls would be interested in doing the job. Saying that I think a lot more girls are playing guitar, drums, etc. these days. Hopefully, there will be an increase over the next few years of women wanting to tech. A case can be made that girls and women are not aware that these are jobs available to them. If they never see any women doing it. I can count the number of female backline techs I’ve seen on one hand, which is a sad thing, but with more exposure hopefully, that will change. It is quite a physical job, but that should not put anyone off because I know big guys who are useless at lifting gear, as it’s all in the technique, not your size!!

What is in your suitcase?

Very little! I try to pack light. Black jeans, black hoodie, various black/grey tee shirts, protection racket wash bag. Hair dryer and straighteners. Tea bags (I am British!), almond butter, Tabasco, a thermos for taking coffee from breakfast (frugal!), and obviously lots of underwear.

What can’t you live without on the road?

A good cup of coffee and a dose of sushi once a week!

What is your favorite part of the job?

Strangely, probably the last song of the show and packing down, because that’s when you can relax and know the show has happened, and everything (hopefully) has gone OK.

What do you like least?

There isn’t much I don’t like about the job, I do like my job! I’m not an early riser, however, so probably early morning lobby calls.

What is your favorite day off activity?

Go-karting or a spa/swimming.

What are three of the most important lessons you’ve learned?

Be nice, don’t be afraid to ask questions, never think you know it all!

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Finally, what are you currently working on?

I’ve just finished the Raveonettes’ last album tour campaign and a tour with a band called Starset who were supporting In This Moment. I’m constantly busy running my company Trash Tours; we do splitter van rental and storage, which fills the gaps when not touring. I’m very much looking forward to heading out on the Social Distortion tour with the support band Jessica Hernandez & The Delta’s. That should be a lot of fun.

Workshop with Marcel van Limbeek – European SoundGirls

SG European Meet Up

SG European Meet Up

The European SoundGirls held an exciting workshop at SSR and invited longtime Monitor Engineer for Tori Amos, Marcel van Limbeek to speak. Women working in professional audio are often treated unfairly by our peers and face numerous obstacles that we often associate with sexual discrimination. Yet, men face some of the same obstacles and barriers.  Marcel shared the pressures and obstacles our male co-workers experience and offered advice on how best to handle these situations. It was an engaging discussion and pushed forward the conversation on gender inequality and sexism in the industry.

We want to extend our thanks to SSR for hosting this event and Marcel van Limbeek, for sharing his experiences with our members. We hope to continue this conversation with Marcel, so look for an upcoming article and interview.
We would also like to thank Malle Kaas for organizing the event
Karrie and Michelle


Thoughts on the Workshop

Representing SG

SoundGirls

Malle Kaas recently completed Brit Row’s Production Training, she organized this event. She resides in Denmark.

On my way to the event, I was reflecting on the latest blog from Karrie Keyes Unconscious Bias, I felt it related to tonight’s workshop. How we approach others, and how we react to others behavior. I was thinking how important it is to think twice in our approach and reaction to others. Very often, our behavior in the present comes from our history that has been shaped by our experiences. It often determines how we interact with other people.

Tonight was about hearing a male co-worker talk about his experiences.  What to do when you lack confidence?  Or you have just made a huge f*** up on a major TV-production, and you can’t just run away, but have to stay and face the 200 other people on the production. How devastating it is at an age of 50 to keep knocking doors down for work. What it is like to never really to feel like a part of the industry, even though you have worked for a critically acclaimed artist for over 20 years. I think that the majority of those who attended the event, felt it was a relief to hear that an industry veteran faces the same issues that many of us do.
Marcel offered advice on how to cope with the difficult feelings we may have about our jobs.  You must be “aggressive” (courage may be a better word). Aggressive enough to be able to apologize if you have made a mistake. Aggressive enough to be able to come and ask for work over and over again. Aggressive enough to be determined to do a good job, (dress properly, prepare and know the gear, etc.). Aggressive enough to be honest. It is important to remember, it is a friendly industry but also very competitive. And whatever stories you make, they stick to you – especially the bad stories.  But hey, everybody messes up – and when you do, be sure to have a friend to talk to about it.


Petra is a live sound engineer working in Holland.

Take away the industry is one of praise, and everything is overly important.  It’s an addictive, bright place to be, but this also comes with a flipside. When there is no praise, or you make mistakes, which happens to every human being, you can get very big throwbacks as well, and it might seem you’re worthless.
When you’re sensitive to this, (which I am) and I found out from the talk that many people are, the lows can really take you down. So make sure you don’t take your worth just from your days work, but also make a steady foundation from past days. It is also important to have people and things outside the circus, (who don’t have ulterior motives, like wanting your job for themselves or their friends) to talk to.

Men are always welcome

Men are always welcome

Second, I discovered that probably the only reason I have stayed in this business is to prove to everyone who told me I couldn’t do it that they were wrong. Apparently, I’m very stubborn and the more you tell me I can’t do something, the more I want to do it and do it well.

One last thing that struck me is that the SoundGirls Forum seems to fill a void. Not only for women working in sound, but also for men, who also have a need to discuss their place in the industry in a less business like manner. This is actually quite wonderful.


Laura is currently interning at a local studio in London

Personally, I found Monday night fantastic. This third SoundGirls meet up felt like we’d taken these nights up a notch. The talk by Marcel I found was very interesting; he is a naturally entertaining person.  He managed to hold my attention for all of it of his talk, which is a rare thing. As well as his successes in the sound industry, he shared his failures with a refreshing honesty, which is brilliant because he obviously wants others to learn from his experiences. I loved (and related to) his all or nothing attitude towards sound and it was reassuring to hear that hard work and ambition do pay off. He confirmed my belief that the best thing you can do is to be awesome at your job. Learn everything you can, treat people well, work as hard as you can, and then no one, sexist or otherwise, can deny you the right to be where you are. Thank you again to Marcel for the talk (and the drink), and I look forward to seeing everyone again next month!

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